Speaking to Rolling Stone, Johnson addressed the notion that he and J.J. Abrams—who made the first and third films in the sequel trilogy, The Force Awakens and The Rise of Skywalker —didn’t communicate enough about their 2015 and 2017 Star Wars films, leading to a disjointed feeling between the two.

Rian Johnson shed some insights about his Star Wars trilogy lost to the ether in a galaxy far, far away, revealing that work on his hit murder mystery Knives Out is ultimately what took precedent. In a recent interview with Rolling Stone,