Mark Zuckerberg criticized Apple on Joe Rogan's podcast for its lack of innovation and strict third-party developer rules. "It’s like Steve Jobs invented the iPhone, and now they’re just kind of sitting on it 20 years later.

Meta is ending its diversity, equity and inclusion programs, known as DEI, the company said Friday, becoming the latest company to pull back from such practices in the wake of pressure from conservative critics and customers.

Early on in the interview, Zuckerberg tests out the water to see how much pushback he’ll get; Rogan is a notoriously soft interviewer — it’s like listening to your dumbest s