In the case of Michael B. Jordan, that person is Denzel Washington. In a new cover story for New York Magazine, Zak Cheney-Rice began the article by writing that Jordan “was courteous but reserved” and that “he told me that sharing as little of himself as possible ‘creates a demand.

Jordan told Vulture the story, adding that between his hectic shooting schedule — Jordan is set to direct, produce, and star in “The Thomas Crown Affair” remake as well as “I Am Legend 2” — he hasn’t “really been out in the world” anyway.